Reader's selected comment: posted on October 8, 2009 10:45 PM
On When will you release the Audit Report????? posted on October 4, 2009 7:40 PM
A Concerned Youth said...
to anyone that visits this site...
so anyone who sends these shameful emails...
to anyone who apparently has issues with God's will...
to anyone who continues to dig this amazing wedge in our community...
you should all be ashamed of yourselves... how dare you divide this community the way it is now. what example are you setting by these contiued slanderings to the youth... who obviously have no say in this entire situation.
this is what you all have to show for yourselves... its disgusting. i pray that one day you will all wake up and realise that what you are doing is wrong. Ib, amir hanna, magdy, and all of the people who started this thing you are all ridiculus... trying to impose your opinions on this community which YOU HAVE DIVIDED is revolting.
if you have political ambitions, i am sure canberra would love to have you... but do not bring the church into it... leave the church alone...
if you have issues with the administration of this church...
PRAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
NO ONE IS MORE DISGUSTED AND DISTURBED BY ALL THIS THAN THE YOUTH...
WELL DONE...YOU HAVE BEEN TRUE AND GREAT EXAMPLES FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS COMMUNITY... EXAMPLES OF WHAT NOT TO DO...
you want hear some questions...ANSWER THESE IF YOU CAN... ALL OF YOU... THOSE WHO KEEP CANT KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT AND EVEN THE ADMINISTRATORS OF THIS SITE...
On When will you release the Audit Report????? posted on October 4, 2009 7:40 PM
A Concerned Youth said...
to anyone that visits this site...
so anyone who sends these shameful emails...
to anyone who apparently has issues with God's will...
to anyone who continues to dig this amazing wedge in our community...
you should all be ashamed of yourselves... how dare you divide this community the way it is now. what example are you setting by these contiued slanderings to the youth... who obviously have no say in this entire situation.
i am a youth in this diocese and am ashamed to be part it.
this is what you all have to show for yourselves... its disgusting. i pray that one day you will all wake up and realise that what you are doing is wrong. Ib, amir hanna, magdy, and all of the people who started this thing you are all ridiculus... trying to impose your opinions on this community which YOU HAVE DIVIDED is revolting.
i am sick of getting your emails...
i am sick of hearing about this
and i hope to God that you stop this
and let this community heal itself together again...
if you have political ambitions, i am sure canberra would love to have you... but do not bring the church into it... leave the church alone...
if you have issues with the administration of this church...
PRAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
LET GOD SOLVE IT!!!!!!!
WHAT ARE YOU PITIFUL MEN GOING TO DO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! NOTHING!!!!
AND YOU HAVE JUST RUINED EVERYTHING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TO BE FUTURE OF THIS CHURCH AND WHO CONTINUE TO WATCH AS YOU CONTINUE TO DIVIDE THE CHURCH!!!!!.... DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ACHIEVING SOME GREAT PURPOSE????... YOU'RE NOT I ASSURE...
NO ONE IS MORE DISGUSTED AND DISTURBED BY ALL THIS THAN THE YOUTH...
AND IT IS YOU WE ARE DISGUSTED AT...
NOT HGBD...
WELL DONE...YOU HAVE BEEN TRUE AND GREAT EXAMPLES FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS COMMUNITY... EXAMPLES OF WHAT NOT TO DO...
you want hear some questions...ANSWER THESE IF YOU CAN... ALL OF YOU... THOSE WHO KEEP CANT KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT AND EVEN THE ADMINISTRATORS OF THIS SITE...
- when will this end?
- when will you ALL grow up and just accept that
it is God's will that we have HGBD?
- when are you going to be the right examples to your children?
- when will this church go back to the days that we were ONE church?
- when will you stop?...(i pray that it isnt when this community has completely disintegrated...)
PLEASE STOP!
i want to be proud of my church again... i want to be proud to say i am coptic again... i want to be able to bring up a family in a UNITED church... a church that doesnt backstab and plot against each other... you make the crusades look like fun...i pray God gives you the wisdom to stop soon...
signed...
a concerned youth...
"Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to DESOLATION, and every city or house divided against itself WILL NOT STAND" Matt 12:25
"TRUST IN THE LORD with all your heart, and lean not on YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and HE WILL DIRECT your path" Prov 3:5
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Dear Concerned Youth,
ReplyDeleteI agree 1 million perecent with your sentiments.
The majority of the community are also very sad that our diocese has been dragged through the mud and shamed in such a disgraceful manner.
Sadly we have no control over the AOE headed by AH and his troopers.
One can only imagine why they would want to seperate the colleges from the diocese and have sole control over the millions of dollars the government generously gives them annually.
It is difficult to fathom why the respective church fathers would allow and support this clan (AOE) in their actions.
Finally we can only speculate as to why the powers in egypt namely Bishop Bishoy, would sit idol and allow this to continue with out any intervention, it is all a mystery.
Most importantly whilst my name has been mentioned repeatedly in some blogs,
I CAN ASSURE YOU I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO ASSOCIATION WITH THE AXIS OF EVIL OR ANY OF THEIR ASSOCIATES.
I AGREE that HGBD is our Bishop irrespective of his faults or any one's opinion.
To the best of my knowledge all the accusations made against him have all been fabricated so as to give their case for his removal merit.
So to THE YOUTH AND ALL ELSE
please rest assured,
I have no association with the site administrators or
The axis of evil.
To the Site Administrators,
I commend you for your stance in opposing any disection of any part of the diocese and your desire to maintain coptic tradittion.(It is not a party cake)
Finally I DID NOT WRITE any
BLOG in particular the one STARTING WITH IB,
It is an email circulated by "TIGERNEWS' THE PHANTOM PUSSY CAT PUPPET OF AH.
GOD HAVE MERCY on US.
IBBY
To the site administrators and to Ibrahim Farag; I agree 100% with the concerned youth.
ReplyDeleteYour behaviour is absolutely disgusting in posting these blogs and mudding he good name of the Coptic Orthodox Church.
And for what, your own sense of pride and self worth. Is it all worth it?
You put yourselves in the place of God in judgement, forgetting the all important words of Christ, judge not and you shall not be judged.
I hope that you all wake up to your senses and remove this awful blog, and leave all in Christ’s hands.
But, i have a feeling that you will not do this due to your enormous egos.
To the site administrators, whoever you are, you proudly publish the names of others, while cowardly publish this blog under the cloak of anonymity. Real pillar of the community stuff guys...
Let us know your identity, and do not remain cowards.
Dear Ibby,
ReplyDeletethank you for your comment...and i apologise if my comment about offended you...i guess your name has come in so many emails and blogs that one automatically assumes your association with the AOE. i apologise.
and to the site administrators i apologise as well to you. i guess i got got alittle carried away and didnt realise you guys were against this as much as i was...
i just hope that one person showing their disgust about all this will spark the rest of the community to speak up...its not like egyptians to stay quiet about something they dont like...but then again i guess that's what started all this to begin with...=(
so i guess the best thing to do is to just pray...
a concerned youth.
Dear Brother or Sister (the second comment),
ReplyDeleteThank you for your comment.
Firstly, Ibrahim Farag that you named has nothing to do with site and we do not know who he is?
Secondly, our friend we are not the ones who are mudding the good name of the Coptic Orthodox Church. This site is a result of the behavior of your Uncle Amir and his mob. If you don’t like the blog, please do not read it.
Please do yourself a favor and ask your uncle Amir, uncle Medhat or uncle Fayez or any of your good uncles of the following:
Who conspired to destabilize HG Bishop Daniel hoping to dethrone him?
Who organized a coup on the Diocese on 28/12/2008 using every single one who has personal issues with HG?
Who was behind the fall of St Mark’s College and still is?
Who was behind airing our dirty laundry on Egyptian TV program “Cairo Today” in arabic “El Kahira Elyoum”?
Who sourced copies of the Diocese’ property deeds? For what purpose?!
Who published those deeds and the Diocese debt through email campaign?
Who leaked the Diocese debts to the press even to Egyptian newspapers that are affiliated with the “Moslem Brotherhood” ie El-Fagr and El-Masrioon?!!
Who was spreading the dishonest rumors of the Diocese debts ignoring the assets to deceive the simple minds of some Copts that the Diocese on the verge of bankruptcy?
Who was spreading fear among the Coptic community about liabilities and intentionally ignoring the income?
Who is behind the ambiguous email names Zeft Elteen, Tig, Akhbar Eloskof etc..
As for judging; who was judging HG Bishop Daniel and is still mudding his reputation?
Need to go on..
If you find honest answers from your uncles we are happy to publish them for you.
Our friend, we love you despite that we don’t know you. The anonymity is because some members of our team have experienced character assassination from your uncle Amir and his gang. If we are doing this for the “sense of pride and self worth” as you said, wouldn’t we like to take credit for it?!
Please focus on the issues and the damage that AOE and the Trio have caused rather than our identities.
GBU.
SMC Rescue Team
Dear Concerned Youth,
ReplyDeleteYou do not need to apologise. God bless you and forgive us all.
Our friend, you can do a little more than just pray. God can use you to execute His will that is spreading peace. Please talk with your family and friends, as many as you can. Tell every single one of them to speak to others too. Then it will become like snow ball that will get bigger and bigger.
Silence is not going to solve our problem.
Tell them the truth that you now know. Tell them that HG Bishop Daniel has been betrayed by his closest people “his advisers”. Tell them to face up to those people every time they see any of them anywhere and tell them PLEASE STOP or leave the church.
Together we will make a difference and God willing CAST EVIL OUT OF OUR DIOCESE.
GBU
SMC Rescue Team
"The anonymity is because some members of our team have experienced character assassination"
ReplyDeleteA bit like what you are doing with this silly blog?
Dear Youth,
ReplyDeleteThere is no need whatsoever for any apology.
Your contribution is valueable, and it is only with open dialouge and debate that the truth will surface.
I am fully aware AH and his Gang thrive on misinformation and deception.
I am glad the youth are starting to speak out.
We need the youth to take control of the church and assist HGBD rather than the expired steering commitee. They are trying to survive well past their use by date, and they are getting very stale.
Further as I stated,
I do not have any association with the site,
the site administrators
and have no idea who they are.
I have no personal interest in the school,
or school age children.
I do however object to any part of the diocese been used for political advantage and power play.
GAB, is deperate to clutch onto power and and maintain control of the diocese.
HGBD CAN NOT return to the same abuse and manipulation he was previously exposed too.
Lets not forget zeftelteen has been sending filthy emails to HGBD for a number of years, very oddly the only person that replied to the emails and kept conversation open
was AMIR HANNA?????
What I do know is they are acting in righteousness against the cancerous spread in our community trying to disect the diocese.
They have every right to protect their college and voice their opinions.
They are at least exercising freedom of speech for a positive reason.
I can not understand why Father Antonios is allowing this to happen.
My personal view is AMIR HANNA is a spent force, and is not an appropriate person to have ANY ROLE in the diocese, sunday schools, colleges or even as an ARCH DEACON.
I find his actions go against all coptic doctrine and dogma.
I pray that the evil stops and the church returns to its former glory.
As for their motivations, I am not ignorant,
And I am sure HGBD has flaws, he is human,
they may have good reason to question his decisions and some out comes.
However I totally object to the resorting to lies, fabrications, distortions and filth.
And i object totally to Father Antonios's email of 25/12/08. Maybe he wrote it out of frustration, maybe he wrote it as part of a pre-conceived plan with AMir Hanna. GOD KNOWS ALL.
In any case I re-iterate I do not want to get directly involved in the dispute over the college.
I support their stance and wish them all the very best.
I also pray HGBD returns with a true sense of righteousness, stealth and desire to excute his role as bishop to the standard Jesus Christ demands and no one else.
God bless you young man/lady and It is refreshing to see the youth finally speaking out.
YOU ARE THE FUTURE OF OUR CHURCH.
PLEASE PRAY FOR ME
IBBY
Dear Brother or Sister (the second comment),
ReplyDeleteThank you for your reply on October 10, 2009 2:24 PM
Anonymous said...
"The anonymity is because some members of our team have experienced character assassination"
A bit like what you are doing with this silly blog?
Our beloved friend, if this is a silly blog, why are you reading it?!
Your good uncles know fair well it is not silly. If they believe it is silly, why there were attempts to hack it, the latest was on Sat 3 October 2009? Their stone age thinking ignore there is something called backup and it will be restored again in no time.
It is rather very painful to them because it exposed them. They are desperate to know any of our team members for reprisal instead of tackling the real concerns we are expressing here. You see, this is their mentality! They play the man not the ball.
Our friend, even if we are doing the same thing, we are reacting in self defense. Hadn’t they come near the school, we wouldn’t have touched them. Our school (our kids’ future) has been hijacked for political reasons and personal agendas. Wouldn’t you try to defend your family from an intruder?!
You only chose one statement from our reply and you IGNORED all our questions! This is also Amir’s way of dialogue!
Is it fair to assume you know the answers and you are visiting this blog for a different reason?! Or you are worried that your good uncles may embarrass you if you ask them?
If you are fair, please be strong and ask them the questions? As we promised, we will publish them for you and let the so many daily followers of this blog know their innocence.
Not only that, we will also apologise to them. How about that?!
Did you notice that you are Anonymous too?! It did not worry us because we understand mate.
GBU
SMC Rescue Team