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Some busy bees were working behind the scene in preparation for today’s political show on the school site. “Mr Ha. Ga.”, the loud mouth disciple of Uncle A??? (so they call him), was in the school almost on a daily basis during the last few weeks. Spotters were suspicious and questioned among themselves seeing him roaming around the school like a rooster.
“Mr Ha. Ga.”, the loud mouth disciple of Uncle A??? (so they call him), has orchestrated a get together for some politicians from the NSW government that is currently on the lookout for any lifeline. The idea was:
- To send a strong signal to the church hierarchy in Egypt as well as to the Coptic community in Sydney that HG Bishop Daniel has no future place in Sydney Diocese. Forget it, somebody else is already in charge here!! You guessed it; his master Uncle A??? (so they call him).
- To advance his political career. A golden opportunity to get a political mileage out of a school that is falling apart. A bit of self interest will do no harm and MAY go long way, especially in politics!! YOU WISH..
School literature handed over to guests had no trace of HG Bishop Daniel or His photo.
The intention was to excise the school from the Diocese. A move which was started by St Mary and St Mina's College few years ago and likely to be mimicked by St Bishoy College in the future.
Some allege that Fr Antonios Kaldas (the current school director reappointed by His Holiness’ decree earlier this year and the author of the controversial email sent to HG late last year) gave the nod of approval (or at least did not object) to this heresy before printing. If true, we are just wondering: when Abouna prays “Litany for the safety of the church fathers” during the Holy Mass, will he pray for the safety of HG Bishop Daniel who is the brother in the Apostolic Ministry to our Patriarch and Pontiff Pope Shenouda III??!!
This action did not raise an eyebrow of any of the following guests of honor, one wonders why?!:
- Mr Amir Hanna; General Superintendent and Vice Chairman of Sunday School of the Diocese, Lecturer at Pope Shenouda III Theological College, and member of the Steering Committee.
- Mr Magdi Kilada; Superintendent of Sunday School of St Mark Cathedral in Arncliffe and father of Mr Samuel Kilada member of the school board.
- Dr William Boctor; former member of the school board.
- Mr Khairy Graice; Chairman of The People’s Voice Association PVA.
- Dr Joseph Israfil; PVA Executive.
- Dr Magdi Shehata; member of the Board of Deacons of St Mary and St Mina’s Cathedral in Bexley and regular column writer for the church magazines (Spring Of Love and El-Manara).
- Mr George Abd Elsaid; former Financial Manager of the school and father of Mrs C. Spirou vice president of the school P & F Association for 2008 and 2009 and former president for two years before.
- Mr Wahid Azmy; Business man and prominent Copt.
- Mr Ramez Ramzy; Business man and prominent Copt.
- Mr Michael Gindy; Secretary of the school board.
Others who were on the guest of honor list but did not attend were:
- Dr Medhat Girgis; Secretary of the General Advisory Board GAB.
- Mr Fayez Hanania; prominent member of the Steering Committee.
Our reverend fathers of the Diocese have got to be commended for collectively refraining from attending after learning of the conspiracy. Fr Yousef Fanous was the only attending father apart from the fathers of the school Fr Antonios Kaldas, Fr Shenouda Mansour and Fr George Nakhil.
The fact of the matter is; HG Bishop Daniel is the bishop of The Diocese of Sydney and Its Affiliated Regions unless said otherwise by HH Pope Shenouda III (may the Lord confirm him on his seat for many peaceful years) and the Holy Synod.
We call upon the Vicar General Fr Tadros Samaan to investigate and if see fit request a Clerical Council for the responsible/s. We will not hold our breath though..
Otherwise, sources predict that we will soon, may as well, enthrone Uncle A??? (so they call him) as the bishop for Sydney Diocese and His loud mouth disciple “ Mr Ha. Ga.” as His Chori-Episcopus (Auxiliary Bishop) for the Coptic Education in NSW.
If you believe this conspiracy is in breach of our Orthodox doctrine and warrants a Clerical Council to the responsible/s, make your voice heard by participating in the related poll above.
NB. We will endeavor to remind the Coptic Community of the action of "Mr Ha. Ga." come next election 26 March 2011.
Lest we forget...
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I don't know who is running this site, however all I can say is may Jesus Christ bless you in your endeavours in preventing this heresy. I am glad and reassured that some in the community will not stand by Idol, whilst Amir Hanna attempts to break up the diocese and undermine HGBD. Amir is a loose cannon and needs to be made accountable. It is clear he is doing all this with the blessings of Bishop Bishoy. Amir Hanna is not a suitable or fit person to have anything to do with the youth let alone a school. He has strayed away from the teachings of Christ and is desperate to salvage his precarious reputation that has been fully exposed. May i sugest the following,
ReplyDelete- The bill of parliament specifically places all church assets schools included under the opsius of HGBD the Sole Trustee.
- A letter to every school parent advising them of what is happeningand Amir Hanna's involvement.
- In the letter explain that Amir was the mastermind in all that has happened to HGBD.
- Amir is driven by the first of the seven deadly sins, PRIDE (ego, status, and a love of himself).
Any one that compares himself to Saint Paul or a modern day Athansius is in serious need of counselling and help.
- Amir has a dogmatic vendetta against HGBD, and will do anything to prevent his return.
- Amir has never been part of the colleges in the past, why now?
- Amir and His loud mouth Haney accused HGBD and Father Youseff of corruption and fraud, so why did they invite Father Youseff?
- Amir has intimidated, threatened and abused Clergy in the past and plotted their down fall.
- Why are Amir and Hany so keen and desperate to take the schools away from the diocese, what are they hiding?
- One must ask, How much money exits the diocese and ends up in egypt (with Bishop Bishoy).
- The colleges collectively enjoy between 15-20 million $ a year, do you trust him and haney with such a responsibility.
- Haney Gayed the ex Ritz carlton doorman and baggage handler with a "bad Back" now wants to represent the coptic community in Parliament?
- Hany has no skills in expression or communication without getting offenssive, abusive, loud and intimidating, he thinks we are still in egypt?
- Can Hany read and write english?
- Is Hany a suitable person to represent the coptic community on any level let alone parliament?
- Does hany Gayed have any decorum or dignity to participate at the level required at parliament?
May Christ, St Mary and all the saints intervene on behalf of the coptic church and stop this heresy and blasphemy perpetrated by An ordained deacon that has strayed from the holy word of Christ.
Amir should re read the bible, pray for your enemies and love them, rather than create them and plot their downfall.
Amen
A concerned Copt.
Hi Everyone, disagree with your Bishop or your clergy all you like but do not destroy the foundations of the church for God sake. The church structure that stood for two centuries, allowed certain channels for protesting actions of any of its leaders. Issues related to a bishop can be addressed by the Holy Synod or His Holiness. I can not believe that all your dilemma is led by a Deacon and some of the once were entrusted people to your bishop, from what I can understand, and they know the wrongs from the rights.
ReplyDeleteYou follow this strayed bunch and you will have nothing left to your children. It doesn't matter who is backing them up in Egypt or in Mars. Do not get blinded by your anger and deprive your kids from the church you once enjoyed.
I share the author's concerns of removing the bishop photo or name from anything belongs to the diocese while he is still on his throne. Specially, if such move is agreed upon by some of his priests!! Something is fundamentally wrong has got to be fixed and quickly.
We pray for you and for the prodigal sheep.
God bless you all.
Jamie, LA, USA
To first comment "Concerned Copt": "It is clear he is doing all this with the blessings of Bishop Bishoy."
ReplyDeleteYou are kidding, aren't you?! My God, does the church hierarchy support this wicked & evil behavior? What for?! I heard this from so many people. Is this true?! Right to the top, to the second man?! No, I can not believe this.
I guess if not true, why are they silent?! Why aren't we hearing anything from them towards this man and his group?!
Are there untouchable people in the church like Naser's days?!
Lord have mercy..
2nd Concerned Copt
Guys, I'm 21 yrs old. I almost left the church completely about 2 years ago cause of Amir Hanna if it wasn't for my conf. fr. He is very damaging. Somebody has to stop him from any church service until he learns humbleness before we loose any of our youth.
ReplyDeleteI forgave him but.
things are getting from bad to worse. what are they waiting to see? the school is a rick. is there any hope for a decisive action?
ReplyDeletehands off our school.
Wasn't this man ordained by HG Bishop Daniel?! I am almost sure. Somebody to correct me please if I am wrong. If he was, well, it tells us something about the man's loyalty and integrity. Our only hope is the Lord & HH not Bishop Bishoy as he is telling everybody that they are related.
ReplyDeleteYvonne
our father Pope Shenouda, if you hear us, pls do something. we feel like nobody hears us. my parents are looking for another school for me and my siblings. i love to stay with my friends and abounas. many of my friends moved out already. the school is big mess. we need your wisdom pleaaaaaaaaase
ReplyDeleteJosh (forgive me not my real name because i m worried)
Who is who!!
ReplyDeleteBoctor & Abd Elsaied!! Isn't the current mess part of their legacy? Do they still have courage to show up? Goodness me..
What about all the other names? Since when have they developed any interest in the school?! We have never heard any of those names before. Guests of honor?! what honor? Is it honor for them or for us? What have they done for the school to be honored? wake up people. Joe
Did any one notice the secretary of the board was there. This happened under his nose. Not a word, seen nothing, heard nothing. You gonna hang your heads in shame guys. HG appointed you to represent him. Do you have guts to resign? I don't think you are that type. shammmmmmmmmmmmme shammmmmmmmmmmmme shammmmmmmmmmmmme on yous.
ReplyDeleteI agree 100% with Jamie from USA. You summed it up very well. please pray for us. God bless you. A.B.
ReplyDeleteThe principal is doing what she's told. After all Amir Hanna got her in. She learned very quick on which side of the fence should she be in. very smart hey. No hope. Sue
ReplyDeleteyou have to understand that Amir & Hany do not move alone. They have the blessing of others who did not attend because they prefer to be out of the picture. this will be hard to believe isn't it? i know but it is true fact that many do not know. my god this needs a revolution to sideline all those. they know they have been exposed and that is why they wanna make sure his grace never comes back. they will try to their last breath. they have the money and the power that is in their connections, right to the top (an open telephone line anytime)!
ReplyDeleteMagdy
Don't despair everyone. if they are lions, we have Daniel. The Lord is able to shut the lions' mouths. He is yesterday's, today's and forever amen.
ReplyDeleteKeep praying.
Ehab
i personally witnessed Amir saying to others keep writing to egypt. they finished what they got. we want to keep him theere. it's all made up by Amir and hg's advisers. they all collaborated to overthrough him. i'm happy to testify before any committee. it was a big betrayal plot. michael
ReplyDeleteIt looks and sounds as it was WELL PLANNED COUP on HG.
ReplyDeleteIs this how the church run nowadays? Conspiracies?! How can Amir Hanna "allegedly" be the mastermind of this coup and still allowed to teach and breach?
Everyone was in a position of responsibility to HG (ie. Advisory Board, Steering Committee etc.) is in breach of trust, has to be questioned and be accountable for his part in what is happened. They were ALL unfaithful to HG one way or another.
With all due respect to the hierarchy of the church, ABC of any investigation is moving to the scene of event, inspect and listen to all different views.
Can you imagine the police investigating an accident from the police station without moving to the scene? It would make a good story on 60 minutes?!
Same thing applies here, how can you guarantee a fair investigation to a problem of this size from as far as Egypt?! Can you really get the full picture by giving your ears only to Amir Hanna and his plotters? Can you FAIRLY investigate any issue by correspondence?!
We have been told on many occasions that the church investigations are "very thorough, detailed and listen to all parties". Can somebody explain how the previous statement prevail or relate to our current problem in the Diocese? There may be something that I can't see or understand.
Forgive me Your Holiness and Your Eminence, just a thought from your weak son in Christ, John.
If a deacon or even a priest is involved in a plot or a coup to overthrough his bishop, he must be stripped out of his deaconship or priesthood. It doesn't matter how brilliant he is in the church doctrine or whether he lectures in the Theological College. It is the most unorthodox behaviour as he would be attacking the core structure of the orthodox church which is priesthood.
ReplyDeleteMat 7:
15- Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16- Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17- Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18- A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19- Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20- Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
I pray to the Lord to open the eyes of Mr Amir Hanna, Fr Antonios and their group to see through the mentioned versus above.
Humbled Copt
Like Magdy above, I'd love also to testify but only before a Synod Committee. I've witnessed a lot of things from the mentioned characters that can answer too many questions. I'd like to be anonymous though cuz those ppl are masters in character assassination while looking like angels. Anyone who talks will be treated like ...
ReplyDeleteIf a Synod Committee arrives to Sydney and advertised, guarantee anonymity, they will be chocked of the no. of ppl willing to testify.